[Lnc-business] EMAIL BALLOT 200524-01: Authorize Signing of Orlando Contract

Fri May 29 17:54:10 EDT 2020

Hello All,

For some reason my Yes vote was not recorded, I intended to vote Yes 
when Mr. Merced offered his signature, as I believe the Vice Chair is 
the one who ought to legally be permitted to act in lieu of the Chair.

In Liberty,

Steven Nekhaila
Region 2 Representative
Libertarian National Committee

Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt
"Those without power cannot defend freedom"

On 2020-05-25 05:15 PM, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business wrote:
> Yes, in case the case does not sign the contract we have a fall back
> procedure with buyin from the LNC.
> 
> ---
> Sam Goldstein, At Large Member
> Libertarian National Committee
> 317-850-0726 Cell
> 
> On 2020-05-25 15:32, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>> And it is not our normal procedure for the LNC to approve the 
>> contract.
>> Where did that comes from?
>> 
>> The prior motions all approved the venue and authorized the chair to 
>> sign
>> on favorable terms.
>> 
>> Are we adding new procedure now?
>> 
>> On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 1:14 PM Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business <
>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Richard,
>>> 
>>> You will have to take my word for it since he express that thought to 
>>> me
>>> in a private telephone conversation about two weeks ago.  And this
>>> motion does not preclude the Chair from signing the final version of 
>>> the
>>> contract if he changes his mind.   I am not advocating removing him 
>>> from
>>> office and would have to do very hard thinking before I voted for 
>>> such
>>> an extreme measure.
>>> 
>>> ---
>>> Sam Goldstein, At Large Member
>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>> 317-850-0726 Cell
>>> 
>>> On 2020-05-25 13:15, Richard Longstreth wrote:
>>> 
>>> > I'm glad he told you Sam, but he didn't tell me or this body. Can you
>>> verify those discussions?
>>> >
>>> > Because I've heard a lot about what the chair will do in the last two
>>> weeks and not a lick of it has come to pass.
>>> >
>>> > * Gavel in austin, no matter what
>>> > * Be amash's VP, then amash dropped out and Sarwark wasn't even
>>> nominated with enough tokens
>>> > * Hijack the convention and force everything online
>>> > Etc
>>> > Etc
>>> > Etc
>>> >
>>> > Our chair is no saint. I can confirm some of the things that have been
>>> put out there that atest to his character, but I am tired of fear of 
>>> what
>>> our chair might do dictating actions of this board.
>>> >
>>> > We have procedures.
>>> > They should be followed.
>>> > If they are not, the LNC can then react appropriately.
>>> >
>>> > Believe me. I will be one of the first to motion to remove Nick from
>>> office if he refuses to sign but just like we had to follow our rules 
>>> to
>>> have an in person. We need to follow then now for contract approval.
>>> >
>>> > Richard Longstreth
>>> > Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY)
>>> > Libertarian National Committee
>>> > richard.longstreth at lp.org
>>> > 931.538.9300
>>> >
>>> > Sent from my Mobile Device
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, May 25, 2020, 10:04 Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein at lp.org> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Richard,
>>> >
>>> > The Chair told me in no uncertain terms that he would not sign a
>>> contract for an in person convention this year.  This motion does not
>>> preclude him from changing his mind but does allow the LNC an option 
>>> if he
>>> does not.  The hotel is not going to keep a block on our rooms 
>>> forever.
>>> >
>>> > Sincerely,
>>> >
>>> > ---
>>> > Sam Goldstein, At Large Member
>>> > Libertarian National Committee
>>> > 317-850-0726 Cell
>>> >
>>> > On 2020-05-25 12:24, Richard Longstreth wrote:
>>> > I want to be clear here:
>>> >
>>> > I read this motion  as authorizing any officer to sign the contract that
>>> was recommended by the COC. So far we have only the one from Saturday 
>>> as
>>> recommended by them and there are concerns. The time to sign is not 
>>> yet
>>> ripe and the chair indicated he will not be in attendance, not that 
>>> he will
>>> not sign.
>>> >
>>> > I think a better way to do this is to have the LNC approve the contract
>>> once concerns are resolved, ask Nick to sign, if he refuses, then do 
>>> the
>>> motion we are debating now. I think we are putting the cart before 
>>> the
>>> horse right now.
>>> > Richard Longstreth
>>> > Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY)
>>> > Libertarian National Committee
>>> > richard.longstreth at lp.org
>>> > 931.538.9300
>>> >
>>> > Sent from my Mobile Device
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, May 25, 2020, 09:09 sam.goldstein--- via Lnc-business <
>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>> > The motion Daniel referred to is the AV contract, not the hotel
>>> contract.
>>> >
>>> > Sam Goldstein
>>> >
>>> > On May 25, 2020 11:59 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business <
>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I would suggest that the LNC meet with Oliver Hall, our legal council,
>>> > under executive session in order to be briefed on any concerns and
>>> > insights that we should be made aware. At that point, the body could
>>> > consult with the CoC in a separate session, and then come to a
>>> > conclusion on our next course of action. Once we have all of the
>>> > information, from all sides, then we can make the best recommendations.
>>> >
>>> > In Liberty,
>>> >
>>> > Steven Nekhaila
>>> > Region 2 Representative
>>> > Libertarian National Committee
>>> >
>>> > Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt
>>> > "Those without power cannot defend freedom"
>>> >
>>> > On 2020-05-25 11:31 AM, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business wrote:
>>> >> I change my vote to no.
>>> >>
>>> >> This motion came quickly and after combing through and reviewing
>>> >> mountains
>>> >> of emails received throughout this weekend, I see the discrepancies
>>> >> noted
>>> >> by Mr O'Donnell. Further, I misunderstood this motion. I took it to
>>> >> read
>>> >> that any officer could sign when the time was appropriate, not to sign
>>> >> now.
>>> >>
>>> >> While Nick has made it clear that he will not sign the contract to me
>>> >> based
>>> >> on his remarks and behavior at the e-convention, authorizing anybody to
>>> >> do
>>> >> so right now is a mistake until it is fully finalized and all concerns
>>> >> addressed. If that happens before this vote expires, I will change back
>>> >> to
>>> >> yes. I realize the convention was busy for many and encourage all on
>>> >> this
>>> >> body to read the relevant emails to gain a full understanding of where
>>> >> we
>>> >> stand. I don't think we are ready to sign yet.
>>> >>
>>> >> Richard Longstreth
>>> >> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY)
>>> >> Libertarian National Committee
>>> >> richard.longstreth at lp.org
>>> >> 931.538.9300
>>> >>
>>> >> Sent from my Mobile Device
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, May 25, 2020, 08:07 justin.odonnell--- via Lnc-business <
>>> >> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> I vote No
>>> >>>
>>> >>> At 4:17 PM sunday, Mr. Hayes sent us all an email admitting that this
>>> >>> contract had not yet been reviewed. As the revisions had just been
>>> >>> recieved, despite his insistance while speaking during the convention
>>> >>> that
>>> >>> it was rock solid and had been reviewed and cleared.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Mr. Goldstein has been posting on social media and on this list upset
>>> >>> about the leak of confidential contract information, claiming its an
>>> >>> issue
>>> >>> because the contract is still being negotiated and we dont have a
>>> >>> final
>>> >>> version yet.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> The contract that was provided to the LNC Via Email on Saturday
>>> >>> morning
>>> >>> was quickly followed by remarks from Mr. Hall, the LNC's retained
>>> >>> council,
>>> >>> advising of what was in his opinion an incredibly unfavorable contract
>>> >>> with
>>> >>> regards to riak assignment to the LNC given the circumstances.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I could be convinced to change my vote to yes, but not until the
>>> >>> members
>>> >>> of the CoC get on the same page and start spinning the same story
>>> >>> consistently at least, rather than insisting the contract is fine and
>>> >>> ready
>>> >>> during public debate but admitting it hasnt been reviewed privately.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I will also wait until the contract is returned with a favorable
>>> >>> review
>>> >>> from our attorney, Mr. Hall.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On a side note, Region 8 will be holding an election for my
>>> >>> replacement
>>> >>> electronically next Week, I wish I could say it had been a pleasure to
>>> >>> serve with everyone on this board, but unfortunately that would not be
>>> >>> displaying the same level of honesty I'll asking of the CoC members.
>>> >>> The
>>> >>> last few months this board has been torn apart with childish
>>> >>> factionalism
>>> >>> and idiotic conflicts of personal natures. Many on this board could
>>> >>> benefit
>>> >>> from a re-reading of Non-Violent communication, and a realization that
>>> >>> you
>>> >>> dont need to be so quick to throw a noose over the branch at every
>>> >>> percieved slight. I'm embarrased to have been part of this board the
>>> >>> past
>>> >>> few months, and I'm ashamed for the members of our party who have to
>>> >>> explain our conduct.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Regards,
>>> >>> Justin O'Donnell
>>> >>> LNC Region 8 Representative
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On May 25, 2020 10:38 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business <
>>> >>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I vote Aye.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> In Liberty,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Steven Nekhaila
>>> >>> Region 2 Representative
>>> >>> Libertarian National Committee
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt
>>> >>> "Those without power cannot defend freedom"
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 2020-05-25 09:56 AM, joshua.smith--- via Lnc-business wrote:
>>> >>>> I vote yes.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> -Joshua
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On May 25, 2020 12:11 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
>>> >>>> <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> We have an electronic mail ballot.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 31, 2020 at 11:59:59
>>> >>>>> pm
>>> >>>>> Pacific time.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Co-Sponsors:  Bilyeu, Goldstein, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson,
>>> >>>>> Merced,
>>> >>>>> Nekhaila, Phillips, Smith
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> =============================================
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Motion: Move to authorize any Party officer to execute the Orlando
>>> >>>>> convention contract recommended by the Convention Oversight
>>> >>>>> Committee.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> =============================================
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsYtTmJdhE/edit#gid=1074776901.
>>> 
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>> Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for
>>> >>>>> verification. You
>>> >>>>> can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the
>>> >>>>> bottom of
>>> >>>>> the sheet.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Please notify me of any discrepancies.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> *  In Liberty,*
>>> >>>>> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
>>> >>>>> Syndrome
>>> >>>>> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>>> >>>>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If
>>> >>>>> anyone
>>> >>>>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
>>> >>>>> faux
>>> >>>>> pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me
>>> >>>>> know.  *
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> 