[Lnc-business] Forwarding a message for Ms. Ryan

[Caryn Ann Harlos]

Was this meeting done in Mr Hayes’ zoom room?

On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 5:27 PM Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

> I agree with Mr. Goldstein that Ms. Ryan's recollection is inaccurate.  I
> assure you that the relevant part of the conversation went like this:
>
> ----------------------------
> Ms. Ryan:  The last order of business is something I didn’t want to bring
> up, but I’ve been painted into a corner by the chair.  He has requested
> that we send him our recommendation for the seat that’s on the COC.  If you
> feel the seat is not available, I urge you to abstain from the vote.  So,
> any…?
>
> COC member:  Why don’t we take a consensus here of who thinks that the seat
> is not open?
> Ms. Ryan:  It doesn’t matter.  I have to do this.  This is my order from
> the chair.
> [...]
> Me:  The chair can’t give you orders like that.  This is under…
> Ms. Ryan:  I work at the pleasure of the chair.
> [...discussion of whether there is a vacancy, the ongoing LNC email
> ballots, and our desire to wait for email ballot results...]
> Me:  So to deal with the agenda item, I’ll move to postpone it to next week
> so we can see how the email ballots play out.
> (second)
> Ms. Ryan:  I’m not going to do that.  I’ve been ordered.  I will pass on…
> Me:  Nick can’t order me not to postpone.
> ----------------------------
>
> -Alicia
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 7:01 AM Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
> > Dear All,
> >
> > Apparently the Chair of the Convention Oversight Committee responded to a
> > number of LNC members about representations that were made by certain LNC
> > members. Ms. Ryan had requested that her response be shared with the
> > business list, but her Regional Representative did not do so.
> >
> > Her response is below:
> > ***
> > “Can you post this for me? If there are things in it that you feel
> > shouldn't be on the thread, go ahead and remove it - that is except for
> the
> > first sentence.  Robert sent me a note asking about this same issue but I
> > think may answer didn't fit the narrative as I didn't see it post.  The
> > committee refuses to recommend someone, even Daniel because that will
> prove
> > there is a vacancy.  I need to get back to work but thank you for
> > everything.
> >
> >
> > I, Ms. Ryan was never bullied by the Chairman. He asked me to call for a
> > vote last weekend but the committee had other things on our plate. I
> > brought it up as the last order of business and said Mr. Sarwark would
> like
> > a vote of the committee. I did say I serve at the pleasure of the Chair
> > because I do.
> >
> > Someone motioned that we table the question although there was no motion
> > made to table.  Besides we rule by consensus. rarely taking a "vote".  I
> > said I was fine telling the Chairman that there was no recommendation
> from
> > the committee at this time.
> >
> > I do feel the Chairman was correct in his request and his reading of the
> > policy manual.  The Chairman has the right to unilaterally seat and
> > therefore the right to remove the non-LNC members of the committee.
> > Therefore there is a vacancy on the committee, which the members of the
> > committee refused to accept.
> >
> > Changing the policy manual is up to the LNC but I caution doing that in
> the
> > heat of a controversy.”
> > ***
> >
> > Yours in liberty,
> > Nick
> >
>
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