[Lnc-business] Forwarding a message for Ms. Ryan

[Sam Goldstein]

Nope, in a room arranged by Ms. Ryan since Mr. Hayes had been fired as 
COC Chair by then.

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Sam Goldstein, At Large Member
Libertarian National Committee
Convention Oversight Committee
317-850-0726 Cell

On 2020-06-04 19:47, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
> Was this meeting done in Mr Hayes’ zoom room?
> 
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 5:27 PM Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> 
>> I agree with Mr. Goldstein that Ms. Ryan's recollection is inaccurate. 
>>  I
>> assure you that the relevant part of the conversation went like this:
>> 
>> ----------------------------
>> Ms. Ryan:  The last order of business is something I didn’t want to 
>> bring
>> up, but I’ve been painted into a corner by the chair.  He has 
>> requested
>> that we send him our recommendation for the seat that’s on the COC.  
>> If you
>> feel the seat is not available, I urge you to abstain from the vote.  
>> So,
>> any…?
>> 
>> COC member:  Why don’t we take a consensus here of who thinks that the 
>> seat
>> is not open?
>> Ms. Ryan:  It doesn’t matter.  I have to do this.  This is my order 
>> from
>> the chair.
>> [...]
>> Me:  The chair can’t give you orders like that.  This is under…
>> Ms. Ryan:  I work at the pleasure of the chair.
>> [...discussion of whether there is a vacancy, the ongoing LNC email
>> ballots, and our desire to wait for email ballot results...]
>> Me:  So to deal with the agenda item, I’ll move to postpone it to next 
>> week
>> so we can see how the email ballots play out.
>> (second)
>> Ms. Ryan:  I’m not going to do that.  I’ve been ordered.  I will pass 
>> on…
>> Me:  Nick can’t order me not to postpone.
>> ----------------------------
>> 
>> -Alicia
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 7:01 AM Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business <
>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> 
>> > Dear All,
>> >
>> > Apparently the Chair of the Convention Oversight Committee responded to a
>> > number of LNC members about representations that were made by certain LNC
>> > members. Ms. Ryan had requested that her response be shared with the
>> > business list, but her Regional Representative did not do so.
>> >
>> > Her response is below:
>> > ***
>> > “Can you post this for me? If there are things in it that you feel
>> > shouldn't be on the thread, go ahead and remove it - that is except for
>> the
>> > first sentence.  Robert sent me a note asking about this same issue but I
>> > think may answer didn't fit the narrative as I didn't see it post.  The
>> > committee refuses to recommend someone, even Daniel because that will
>> prove
>> > there is a vacancy.  I need to get back to work but thank you for
>> > everything.
>> >
>> >
>> > I, Ms. Ryan was never bullied by the Chairman. He asked me to call for a
>> > vote last weekend but the committee had other things on our plate. I
>> > brought it up as the last order of business and said Mr. Sarwark would
>> like
>> > a vote of the committee. I did say I serve at the pleasure of the Chair
>> > because I do.
>> >
>> > Someone motioned that we table the question although there was no motion
>> > made to table.  Besides we rule by consensus. rarely taking a "vote".  I
>> > said I was fine telling the Chairman that there was no recommendation
>> from
>> > the committee at this time.
>> >
>> > I do feel the Chairman was correct in his request and his reading of the
>> > policy manual.  The Chairman has the right to unilaterally seat and
>> > therefore the right to remove the non-LNC members of the committee.
>> > Therefore there is a vacancy on the committee, which the members of the
>> > committee refused to accept.
>> >
>> > Changing the policy manual is up to the LNC but I caution doing that in
>> the
>> > heat of a controversy.”
>> > ***
>> >
>> > Yours in liberty,
>> > Nick
>> >
>>